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Torture: n. inflicting severe pain and/or discomfort on a lifeform(s)

Torture can extract the truth or lies or nothing at all or it can extract a combination of truth and lies. What part of the extraction is the truth and what part lies is unknown to the interrogator. Yes, torture can make you admit to being guilty of the most henous crimes but whether those admissions are truthful is still an unanswerable question.

Hopefully the tortured will reveal some truth along with lies and if you check out all the possibilities then you may be able to separate fact from fiction. The truthful facts can potentially be used to avoid terrorist plots or connect the tortured victim to some if not all of his or her compatriots or coconspiritors.

I am not an advocate of torturing with cruel and unusual punishment but I can possibly justify it in extreme emergency situations where many innocent lives may be at stake due to a nuclear bomb which will go off in 24 hours. If the source of the info is a human or humans with an outstanding reputation for honesty and there is a high probability that they are probably right that they know the human who knows the location of the nuclear bomb then I may arrest the alleged perpetrator with terrorist connections and possibly use torture to extract the location information if they don’t reveal it voluntarily.

Realistically this is a nightmare scenario and I don’t believe in torturing humans to find out where they planted a conventional bomb to go off. I would follow the alleged perpetrator and prosecute them only after the bomb actually went off and caused death and found strong physical evidence to support the accusation. Humans can be set up or framed for crimes they never committed so if the human has an impeccable reputation mere hearsay is not enough to arrest them.


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There are too few unchanging truths today.

Most scientific and technological truths are unchanging but morality should be changed and in a nutshell it should be in non emergency situations don’t destroy biodiversity, don’t lie, don’t be inefficient, don’t steal, don’t commit adultery if married, and don’t murder.  With the exception of emergency situations such as wars and natural disasters, this basic secular morality should also be a new unchanging truth for society to follow.

Torture is barbaric.


This is just a way of saying that torture causes much pain and there are better ways of extracting information from criminals or terrorists these days.


Using force to stop force is not absurd.


Use greater force to stop force is a better way of putting it and it is not an absurd thing to believe in. Children who attack parents physically should be restrained first with greater force and continued compulsive physical aggressions can even be met with a justified forceful spanking.  Tyrants who forcefully invade another nation should be met with superior force to stop this unacceptable aggression.


Violence is permissible even desirable occasionally.


Violence in self defense can certainly be justified in many cases.


You are a victim of the rules you live by.


More accurately, you are limited to a lifestyle by the rules that you live by.  You are not a victim because no crime has been committed.


You can’t expect people to be something they’re not.


If you expect people to behave contrary to human nature or the way that they were raised, you will be disappointed.


You must be intimate with a token few.


This just means that you should have very few close friends that you can share your most intimate secrets with. The more friends that you share your intimate secrets with, the more likely it will be that your intimacy will be violated at some point in the future.


You owe the world not the other way around.


You owe the world a moral lifestyle and the world should help you in supporting that moral lifestyle.


If you lie down with dogs you’ll rise with fleas.


This just means that if you associate with bad people some or all of those bad behaviors will influence and change you for the worse.

The thief is no danger to the beggar.


This is not always true because the thief can steal what little the beggar has such as clothes.

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